Closing Statement for the Affirmative (Saladin, 5 minutes) Saladin: From time to time I take opinion surveys of new college students, and I’d like to read you a few ways that they’ve defined evolution: "The theory of evolution is basically that man resolve from the ape, I think the theory could be true in some […]

Second Rebuttal for the Affirmative (Saladin, 5 minutes) Moderator: We now have one more set of rebuttals. These rebuttals will be five minutes and we will begin with Dr. Saladin. Saladin: Well in the mere five minutes remaining I can only answer a small fraction of Dr. Gish’s comments but I would [inaudible word] if […]

First Rebuttal for the Affirmative (Saladin, 15 minutes) [During the intermission, someone from the audience asked me if I could speak more slowly. I apologize if I talked too fast for some of you to follow me, especially the foreign students, but I would point out that it’s hard for me to speak slowly, because […]

Opening Statement for the Affirmative (Saladin, 45 minutes) [Section and subsection titles are for clarification to the reader and to correspond to the outline of this transcript. They were not spoken in the debate itself.] I. INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS [SLIDE 1: Title slide, "Evolution vs. Creationism"] In 1982, Science magazine published an article by Ron Numbers […]

Saladin’s Assessment of the Debate [Assessment of the debate from Creation/Evolution Newsletter 8(6) : 11,14 (Nov/Dec 1988).] THE DEBATE CIRCUIT Saladin-Gish Debate May 10, 1988, at Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama Reported by Kenneth S. Saladin Georgia College, Milledgeville, GA 31060 My second debate with Duane Gish took place before an audience of about 800 last […]

Question-Answer Period Moderator: We’ll now have a 30-minute question and answer session, with audience members asking the questions. We’ll probably need some lights out in the audience, and we’ll recognize you, raise your hand, and address your question to one speaker or the other. And the next questioner should ask a question of the other […]

Preface Kenneth Saladin This is a transcript of my second debate with Duane Gish, which took place on 10 May 1988 at Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama, before an audience of about 800 people. (My first debate with him was at the Montgomery campus of Auburn University on 24 March 1984.) I have taken the time […]

Moderator’s Introduction Cathy Hennen Moderator: Good evening and welcome to the UPC [University Program Committee] Religious Affairs and Horizons Committee debate on creation, special creation, versus evolution. My name is Cathy Hennen and I’m from the Department of Speech Communication and it’s my privilege to be the moderator of tonight’s debate. The topic for the […]

Closing Statement for the Negative (Gish, 5 minutes) Moderator: We will now have a five-minute closing statement from Dr. Gish. Gish: Ladies and gentlemen on page 353 of this book by Michael Denton, he says this: "Contrary to what is widely assumed by evolutionary biologists today, it has always been the anti-evolutionists, not the evolutionists, […]

Second Rebuttal for the Negative (Gish, 5 minutes) Moderator: Five-minute rebuttal with Dr. Gish. Gish: Ladies and gentlemen, again you have heard this charges. Dr. Saladin said that you can do this and you can do that. Why didn’t he do it here tonight? He made these charges, why didn’t he document it? Because nobody’s […]

First Rebuttal for the Negative (Gish, 15 minutes) Moderator: We will now have a 15-minute rebuttal by Dr. Gish. Gish: You know, Dr. Saladin has resorted to something that is quite common among evolutionists. He began to attack me personally. He tried to claim certain things, dishonesty and quoting of context and things like that. […]

Opening Statement for the Negative (Gish, 45 minutes) Certainly, I consider it a privilege to be here at Auburn University, this great campus, and to have this opportunity to present the scientific evidence for creation. I would say that the size of this crowd, you people here at Auburn are interested in something besides football. […]

Gish’s Assessment of the Debate [Assessment of the debate from Acts & Facts (Institute for Creation Research), 17(8):2,4 (August 1988).] Auburn University Debate Dr. Duane Gish’s opponent for the debate on the campus of Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama, on the evening of May 10, was Dr. Kenneth Saladin, Professor of Biology at Georgia College, Millidgeville, […]

Response to Feedback (1996) Ken Saladin   Dear Friends, I’ve had a number of questions ever since my 1988 debate with Gish was posted on the Web. It’s been difficult getting time to answer, partly because of a giganormous publishing commitment with a tight deadline that I’m under right now, and partly because a lot […]

About this Transcript Jeffery Jay Lowder This transcript is a slightly modified version of the transcript available in print from the National Center for Science Education. In the annotations, I have removed references to pages within this manuscript and replaced them with references to the appropriate speech. Since I was not typing with divine inspiration, […]

About the Debate RESOLVED: THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION IS SUPERIOR TO THE THEORY OF SPECIAL CREATION AS AN EXPLANATION FOR THE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE RELATED TO ORIGINS. A DEBATE HELD AT: AUBURN UNIVERSITY AUBURN, ALABAMA 10 MAY 1988 SPEAKING FOR THE AFFIRMATIVE: Kenneth S. Saladin, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Biology Georgia College Milledgeville, Georgia SPEAKING FOR […]

Evolution vs. Creationism The Saladin-Gish II Debate (1988) Transcribed and Annotated by Kenneth S. Saladin About this transcript About the debate Preface Moderator’s Introduction Opening Statement for the Affirmative (Saladin, 45 min.) Opening Statement for the Negative (Gish, 45 min.) First Rebuttal for the Affirmative (Saladin, 15 min.) First Rebuttal for the Negative (Gish, 15 […]

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