Kersey Graves 16 Chap20

Order The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors now. MANY cases are related by their respective sacred narratives of the ancient Saviors, and other beings possessing the form of man, and previously recognized as men, reappearing to their disciples and friends, after having been consigned to the tomb for three days, or a longer or shorter period […]

Kersey Graves 16 Chap2

Order The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors now. NEARLY all religious history is prophetic of the coming of Saviors, Messiahs, Redeemers, and virgin-born Gods. Most religious countries, and more than a score of religious systems, had a standing prophecy that a divine deliverer would descend from heaven and relieve them from their depressed state, and ameliorate […]

Kersey Graves 16 Chap19

Order The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors now. WE find presented in the canonized histories of several of the demigod Saviors the following remarkable coincidences appertaining to their death: —   Their resurrection from the dead.   Their lying in the tomb just three days.   The resurrection of several of them about the time of […]

Kersey Graves 16 Chap18

Order The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors now. THE next most important event in the histories of the Saviors after their crucifixion, and the act of giving up the ghost, is that of their descent into the infernal regions. That Jesus Christ descended into hell after his crucifixion is not expressly taught in the Christian bible, […]

Kersey Graves 16 Chap17

Order The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors now. MATTHEW tells us (xxvii. 31) that when Christ was crucified, there was darkness all over the land for three hours, and “the earth did quake, and the rocks were rent, and many of the saints came out of their graves.” Here we have a series of events spoken […]

Kersey Graves 16 Chap16

Order The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors now. “FOR I determined not to know anything among you, save Jesus Christ and him crucified.” (I Cor. ii. 2.) There must have existed a very considerable amount of skepticism in the community as to the truth of the report of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ in the country […]

Kersey Graves 16 Chap15

Order The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors now. IT is unwarrantably assumed by Christian writers that the incarnated Gods and crucified Saviors of the pagan religions were all either mere fabulous characters, or ordinary human beings invested with divine titles, and divine attributes; while, on the other hand, the assumption is put forth with equal boldness […]

Kersey Graves 16 Chap14

Order The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors now. RETIREMENT AND FORTY DAYS’ FASTING CHRIST taught, “My kingdom is not of this world.” And we find that most of the other Saviors virtually and practically taught the same doctrine. The first practical evincement of it was exhibited by retiring from the world; that is, they retired from […]

Kersey Graves 16 Chap13

Order The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors now. OF course, all Gods must be heroes — physically or intellectually, or both. The more danger they encounter, and the earlier they manifest a precocious or preternatural smartness, the more like Gods. And hence we find several of the Saviors in very early childhood displaying great physical prowess […]

Kersey Graves 16 Chap12

Order The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors now. OF course such an extraordinary circumstance as the birth of a God into the world must be marked with unusual incidents and great eclat. This was first exhibited by angels, shepherds, prophets, magi or “wise men,” flocking around their cradles. In the second place we observe an unusual […]

Kersey Graves 16 Chap11

Order The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors now. IN order to exalt the dignity and character of the Christian Messiah still higher than a mere claim for a divine origin paternally would have the effect to do, two of his assumed to be inspired biographers have set up for him a claim to a royal lineage […]

Kersey Graves 16 Chap10

Order The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors now. WE have the singular coincidence presented in the histories of several of the Saviors of their lineal descent through a line of kings or princes, and yet commencing their probationary life under the most humble and adverse circumstances — being born in stables, caves, and other inauspicious situations. […]

Kersey Graves 16 Chap1

IT is claimed by the disciples of Jesus Christ, that he was of supernatural and divine origin; that he had a human being for a mother, and a God for his father; that, although he was woman- conceived, he was Deity-begotten, and molded in the human form, but comprehending in essence a full measure of […]

Kersey Graves 16 Address

FRIENDS and brethren — teachers of the Christian faith: Will you believe us when we tell you the divine claims of your religion are gone — all swept away by the “logic of history,” and nullified by the demonstrations of science? The recently opened fountains of historic law, many of whose potent facts will be […]

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PREFACE EXPLANATION INTRODUCTION ADDRESS TO THE CLERGY CHAPTER I : RIVAL CLAIMS OF THE SAVIORS CHAPTER II : MESSIANIC PROPHECIES CHAPTER III : PROPHECIES BY THE FIGURE OF A SERPENT CHAPTER IV : MIRACULOUS AND IMMACULATE CONCEPTION OF THE GODS CHAPTER V : VIRGIN MOTHERS AND VIRGIN-BORN GODS CHAPTER VI : STARS POINT OUT THE […]

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Closing Statement for the Affirmative (Saladin, 5 minutes) Saladin: From time to time I take opinion surveys of new college students, and I’d like to read you a few ways that they’ve defined evolution: "The theory of evolution is basically that man resolve from the ape, I think the theory could be true in some […]

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Second Rebuttal for the Affirmative (Saladin, 5 minutes) Moderator: We now have one more set of rebuttals. These rebuttals will be five minutes and we will begin with Dr. Saladin. Saladin: Well in the mere five minutes remaining I can only answer a small fraction of Dr. Gish’s comments but I would [inaudible word] if […]

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First Rebuttal for the Affirmative (Saladin, 15 minutes) [During the intermission, someone from the audience asked me if I could speak more slowly. I apologize if I talked too fast for some of you to follow me, especially the foreign students, but I would point out that it’s hard for me to speak slowly, because […]

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Opening Statement for the Affirmative (Saladin, 45 minutes) [Section and subsection titles are for clarification to the reader and to correspond to the outline of this transcript. They were not spoken in the debate itself.] I. INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS [SLIDE 1: Title slide, "Evolution vs. Creationism"] In 1982, Science magazine published an article by Ron Numbers […]

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Saladin’s Assessment of the Debate [Assessment of the debate from Creation/Evolution Newsletter 8(6) : 11,14 (Nov/Dec 1988).] THE DEBATE CIRCUIT Saladin-Gish Debate May 10, 1988, at Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama Reported by Kenneth S. Saladin Georgia College, Milledgeville, GA 31060 My second debate with Duane Gish took place before an audience of about 800 last […]

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Question-Answer Period Moderator: We’ll now have a 30-minute question and answer session, with audience members asking the questions. We’ll probably need some lights out in the audience, and we’ll recognize you, raise your hand, and address your question to one speaker or the other. And the next questioner should ask a question of the other […]

Ken Saladin Saladin Gish2 Preface

Preface Kenneth Saladin This is a transcript of my second debate with Duane Gish, which took place on 10 May 1988 at Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama, before an audience of about 800 people. (My first debate with him was at the Montgomery campus of Auburn University on 24 March 1984.) I have taken the time […]

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Moderator’s Introduction Cathy Hennen Moderator: Good evening and welcome to the UPC [University Program Committee] Religious Affairs and Horizons Committee debate on creation, special creation, versus evolution. My name is Cathy Hennen and I’m from the Department of Speech Communication and it’s my privilege to be the moderator of tonight’s debate. The topic for the […]

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Closing Statement for the Negative (Gish, 5 minutes) Moderator: We will now have a five-minute closing statement from Dr. Gish. Gish: Ladies and gentlemen on page 353 of this book by Michael Denton, he says this: "Contrary to what is widely assumed by evolutionary biologists today, it has always been the anti-evolutionists, not the evolutionists, […]

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Second Rebuttal for the Negative (Gish, 5 minutes) Moderator: Five-minute rebuttal with Dr. Gish. Gish: Ladies and gentlemen, again you have heard this charges. Dr. Saladin said that you can do this and you can do that. Why didn’t he do it here tonight? He made these charges, why didn’t he document it? Because nobody’s […]

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First Rebuttal for the Negative (Gish, 15 minutes) Moderator: We will now have a 15-minute rebuttal by Dr. Gish. Gish: You know, Dr. Saladin has resorted to something that is quite common among evolutionists. He began to attack me personally. He tried to claim certain things, dishonesty and quoting of context and things like that. […]

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Opening Statement for the Negative (Gish, 45 minutes) Certainly, I consider it a privilege to be here at Auburn University, this great campus, and to have this opportunity to present the scientific evidence for creation. I would say that the size of this crowd, you people here at Auburn are interested in something besides football. […]

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Gish’s Assessment of the Debate [Assessment of the debate from Acts & Facts (Institute for Creation Research), 17(8):2,4 (August 1988).] Auburn University Debate Dr. Duane Gish’s opponent for the debate on the campus of Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama, on the evening of May 10, was Dr. Kenneth Saladin, Professor of Biology at Georgia College, Millidgeville, […]

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Response to Feedback (1996) Ken Saladin   Dear Friends, I’ve had a number of questions ever since my 1988 debate with Gish was posted on the Web. It’s been difficult getting time to answer, partly because of a giganormous publishing commitment with a tight deadline that I’m under right now, and partly because a lot […]

Ken Saladin Saladin Gish2 About Transcript

About this Transcript Jeffery Jay Lowder This transcript is a slightly modified version of the transcript available in print from the National Center for Science Education. In the annotations, I have removed references to pages within this manuscript and replaced them with references to the appropriate speech. Since I was not typing with divine inspiration, […]